Comments on: How Do You Order Your Worship Service? http://www.modernekklesia.com/2010/07/how-do-you-order-your-worship-service.html Some thoughts on the intersection of church, leadership, and technology. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:08:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Rodlie Ortiz http://www.modernekklesia.com/2010/07/how-do-you-order-your-worship-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-921 Rodlie Ortiz Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.modernekklesia.com/?p=1163#comment-921 To be honest, we haven't noticed much of a difference in the giving. But many churches that have moved it later have, because more people are in church at that time. We moved it for two main reasons: 1. Theological: giving should be a response to worship. So when you place it at the end, it allows the people to actually respond to the worship service. 2. Practical: by having it at the end, it allows us to make appeals through the use of the "connection card, " and then when the offering bucket goes around people can put their card in the offering bucket. That way everyone has something to put inside. I don't normally have a "come up to the front" altar call. If I did, it would be in the same time where I use the response card. AT the end of every message, I have an "appeal" time. I invite them to pull out the connection card and I ask them "what is the next step that God is calling you to make today?" That way everyone can "safely" make any decision they want. Does that make sense? To be honest, we haven’t noticed much of a difference in the giving. But many churches that have moved it later have, because more people are in church at that time.

We moved it for two main reasons:
1. Theological: giving should be a response to worship. So when you place it at the end, it allows the people to actually respond to the worship service.
2. Practical: by having it at the end, it allows us to make appeals through the use of the “connection card, ” and then when the offering bucket goes around people can put their card in the offering bucket. That way everyone has something to put inside.

I don’t normally have a “come up to the front” altar call. If I did, it would be in the same time where I use the response card. AT the end of every message, I have an “appeal” time. I invite them to pull out the connection card and I ask them “what is the next step that God is calling you to make today?” That way everyone can “safely” make any decision they want.

Does that make sense?

]]> By: KeleChuku A. http://www.modernekklesia.com/2010/07/how-do-you-order-your-worship-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-920 KeleChuku A. Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.modernekklesia.com/?p=1163#comment-920 Did you notice a difference in the amount of giving by collecting the offering after the message. From late-comers, and those moved by the message to give more? Do you ever have alter calls , and if you do where would you put it? Did you notice a difference in the amount of giving by collecting the offering after the message. From late-comers, and those moved by the message to give more? Do you ever have alter calls , and if you do where would you put it?

]]> By: Rodlie Ortiz http://www.modernekklesia.com/2010/07/how-do-you-order-your-worship-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-814 Rodlie Ortiz Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.modernekklesia.com/?p=1163#comment-814 Thanks, Chad. Interesting set up. I'd love to see it in real life to get a feel for it. Do you like it like that? Do you feel that it works well? Thanks, Chad. Interesting set up. I’d love to see it in real life to get a feel for it. Do you like it like that? Do you feel that it works well?

]]> By: Chad Stuart http://www.modernekklesia.com/2010/07/how-do-you-order-your-worship-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-813 Chad Stuart Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.modernekklesia.com/?p=1163#comment-813 1. Song 1a. Prayer 2. Greeting--literally a conversation I have with the congregation, some announcements, but mainly just chatting like I would if I was quickly saying hello and catching someone up quickly on my week (the week at the church) also welcome babies and new members here. 3. Children's church 4. Offering appeal (but don't collect offering here) 5. Prayer 6. Singing 7. Sermon 8. Song and collect tithes/offerings and connection cards. 1. Song
1a. Prayer
2. Greeting–literally a conversation I have with the congregation, some announcements, but mainly just chatting like I would if I was quickly saying hello and catching someone up quickly on my week (the week at the church) also welcome babies and new members here.
3. Children’s church
4. Offering appeal (but don’t collect offering here)
5. Prayer
6. Singing
7. Sermon
8. Song and collect tithes/offerings and connection cards.

]]> By: Rodlie Ortiz http://www.modernekklesia.com/2010/07/how-do-you-order-your-worship-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-791 Rodlie Ortiz Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.modernekklesia.com/?p=1163#comment-791 Sounds like a nice set, Brian! Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a nice set, Brian! Thanks for sharing.

]]> By: Rodlie Ortiz http://www.modernekklesia.com/2010/07/how-do-you-order-your-worship-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-790 Rodlie Ortiz Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.modernekklesia.com/?p=1163#comment-790 Sounds nice. You do a more contemporary set? I've tried planning center before, but couldn't quite figure it all out. I think I'm going to try again, though. Sounds nice. You do a more contemporary set? I’ve tried planning center before, but couldn’t quite figure it all out. I think I’m going to try again, though.

]]> By: Rodlie Ortiz http://www.modernekklesia.com/2010/07/how-do-you-order-your-worship-service.html/comment-page-1#comment-789 Rodlie Ortiz Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.modernekklesia.com/?p=1163#comment-789 I hear you, Maria. For a lot of spanish churches it's tough to change anything. I hear you, Maria. For a lot of spanish churches it’s tough to change anything.

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